Tuesday, March 11, 2014

We're English 10 Nerds and Loving It: March 11, 2014

Focus: What does our future look like, according to Bradbury?

TCAP: Shortened Class

1. Warming up: Perusing your fishbowl grades from yesterday and explaining what they mean

If you were a leader...
In the mastery category, you have a syllabus grade (30 points).  I'm looking for thought-provoking questions, thematic categories, incorporation of quotations, and professionalism.

Also in the mastery category, you have a facilitation grade (10 points).

9 or 10: You posed questions, you listened actively to people's comments, you helped speed up or slow down the conversation when necessary, and you discussed topics as well.

7 or 8: You posed questions, but you didn't really jump in much to move things along.  You didn't discuss much or at all, and you didn't always demonstrate that you were listening.

1-6: You were actually taking away from the quality of the conversation, either through irrelevant comments, side conversations, or other somewhat disrespectful behavior.  I did not get the sense that you had completed the reading.

0: You were either absent on your leadership day or you didn't contribute at all.

If you were on the outer circle...
In the growth category, you have a blogging grade (10 points).

Perfect 10: You commented thoughtfully and consistently from the beginning of the discussion to the end, and you incorporated at least one quotation from the book into one of your comments.

9: You commented thoughtfully and consistently from the beginning of the discussion to the end, using proper grammar and demonstrating that you completed the reading.  You perhaps forgot to include a quotation.

7-8: You had a few solid comments, but you either disappeared for part of the discussion, or you neglected proper grammar, or you had a comment or two that just didn't say much (ex: "I agree.").

1-6: You were having some issues, friend.  Perhaps you were having a side conversation, or listening to music, or doing other homework, or you disappeared from the blog for a significant part of the discussion.  Or perhaps you were posting distracting, irrelevant comments.

0: You did not post any comments.

Note: If you get into a hotseat and contribute thoughtfully, your grade is automatically elevated by one point.

If you were a discusser, you have a grade in the growth category (10 points).

Perfect 10: You elevated the conversation to new levels, reading passages aloud, bringing in historical context, looking up words, and/or approaching the text from a unique angle.

8 or 9: You commented thoughtfully and consistently. I could tell that you read the assigned pages thoughtfully.

6 or 7: The jury is out on whether or not you actually did the reading.  Your comments were somewhat vague or inconsistent.

1-5: You brought shame on the fishbowl.  

0: You were absent on the day you signed up to be a discusser and never made it up.


2. Enjoying our second fishbowl discussion: F451, pages 28-30


HW:
1. If you did not take the quiz last week on SAT lists 11-15, be prepared to take it this Friday.

2. Bring your memoir independent reading book and your green packet to class on Friday.

3. Catch up with F451 if you have fallen a bit behind.

290 comments:

  1. "and as man times he came out of the house and Clarissa was there somewhere in the world." Do you think Motang imagining her somewhere in the world is sort of an obsession with her?

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    1. His curiosity about her abnormality was starting to become an obsession. He liked her and her ideas and wanted to learn more about how to live like her. "'It was a good question. It's been a long time since anyone cared enough to ask'" (Page 29). He obviously likes her and her sympathy towards others, which is something that everyone lacks in this story.

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  2. "He was too late. Montag gasped." (40) Montag is deeply affected by seeing the woman burn with her books, in a way it motivates him to break free of his restraints

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  3. I think that the insanity of Motang the firefighter is bring him to believe that Clarissa is real, it could be a figure of his imagination. He starts fires and walks with this girl everyday. Insanity, I think so.

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  4. "Montag had done nothing. His hand had done it all, his hand, with a brain of its own."
    Montag had a temptation and when he fufilled it, he put the blame on his hand saying it has, " a brain of its own." Do you think this is true?

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    1. I think it's like a form of Insanity. Something is definitely wrong with Motang

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    2. I agree with Dakota because you are in control of your hand and your brain controls it, his hand doesn't have a brain of its own.

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    3. I believe that with all the stuff Montag has been through, he is a little insane.

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  5. I agree with Austin because if we are over populated then chaos would happen and to many people would be in the world

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  6. Should there be laws against population in this world, would it make things better?

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    1. There is a point where there is going to be too many people that are living in the world which will bring chaos to the city's of people running out of resources.

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    2. I don't think there should be laws against population because people should be able to give birth to children if they want. Its another life and if they can take care of it then they should be able to.

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    3. I don't know if it would make things better, it might enable the government to control the population but it might anger the population itself.

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  7. I am curious as to why all of the people in this novel seem to be described as simply "brain dead" they don't seem to have any perception of the outside world.

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  8. On page 34 the idea that the first fireman was Ben Franklin who burned British books in 1790. Why do you think that the government is trying to change history? Is it to stop an uprising?

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    1. Maybe the government realized it was too dangerous to keep citizens that can think for themselves, so they recreated society.

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    2. It is to make sure that everyone is clueless enough to believe what the government is telling them: that this is the way to live and that this is the only way to live. They do this to fool everyone into believing that this is their only way of life.

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  9. I agree with Sean, in this world a person who thinks on their own are rejected. Anyone with individuality is an outcast.

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  10. "And then, Clarisse was gone. He didn't know what there was about the afternoon, but it was not seeing her somewhere in the world. The lawn was empty, the trees empty, the street empty, and while at first he did not know he missed her or was even looking..." Does this mean he likes her? Does he miss her that much? I think she made his life more enjoyable, and he started thinking about what ifs. She almost made him believe there was something better.

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    1. Although she didn't explain everything about the faults of this world, she said enough to spark curiosity and a desire to learn more, which eventually will lead to him completely turning away from his old way of life and starting a new, more independent life.

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    2. I think that he made him view his life differently and it wouldn't be the same with out her, and I think he wants that back.

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  11. What benefit does burring the books in the story have on their society?

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    1. They have such an organized society that is set on strict rules that only succeeds because people don't know any better than to just do what they are told. If they are able to read books and expand their imagination and range of thinking they would start to realize that there is more to their lives than the just going through the motions.

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    2. Their society is kind of communist and the burning books is a symbol which is representing a strong change in society and how the world would be better off if everyone was different.

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  12. on page 40 "He was too late. Montag gasped." i think what this quote is saying that montage is going through a lot and this really affected him when he saw the women burn the book

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  13. In response to Paul's question, " Why is this society so backwards?" I think it is because of lack of structure. Their are children killing other children and firemen burning books. I feel as if there is a serious lack of control.

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  14. Montag tried to save the woman from the fire on page 39. He obviously changed quite a bit from his talks with Clarisse. Before he talked to Clarisse, he would never have taken that book or tried to save the woman. Do you think he did this because of Clarisse?

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  15. Why did civilization decide to go this way rather than stopping the problem of overpopulation earlier and making restrictions on life? since the world they live in is pretty restricted.

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  16. What did Clarisse mean when she said "Sometimes I'm ancient." I personally feel that she was saying that she has to be old in the society she lives in. With all the violence and corruption she has to be old and wise, rather than dumb and stupid to stay alive. With this book as one big contradiction that how a 17 year old can be old and children killing one another. So, is is Clarrise more wise than Montag?

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  17. "Montags hand closed like a mouth, crushed the book with wild devotion, with an intensity of mindlessness to his chest" pg. 37. Do you think Monatag feels regret for what he has done? Do you think that he wishes he has never done this?

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  18. What reason would the government have to make society so shallow?

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  19. How does the house burn down?

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    1. It was set on fire? Possibly from the books that were burned inside.

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  20. Why is Montag so scared of Beatty the fire captain?

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    1. I think it is because Beatty is starting to notice that Montag is acting differently.

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  21. On page 34 there are some false historical facts about Benjamin Franklin being a book burner. Is this because the new government wants to have control over the people by re-creating history?

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    1. I think the new government wants to show that life in the past was the same as it was now.

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  22. On page 33 it says "They and their charcoal hair and soot colored brows and bluish ash smeared cheeks where they had shaven close." Do they get pleasure from all of this damage? on the first page he describes how these things give him pleasure but now it has become dangerous.

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    1. Yes, because they want to get rid of other peoples ideas and they have gone insane for example when Montag talked about how they took that man to an asylum and eve though he wasn't insane, I think that Montag is starting to feel guilty for everything he has done.

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  23. The idea of the salamander is brought up multiple times especially on page 40. In history the salamander is symbolized as the long tongued frog that breathes fire. I think that it is very ironic how Montag brings up the firetruck as a giant salamander.

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  24. On page 38 one of the firemen tells Montag, "Don't stand there, idiot!", Why does Guy Montag just stand there and not do anything? Is he realizing that what he is doing is wrong? Is Clarisse changing the way he feels about things?

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    1. I think he is realizing that maybe Clarisse is right. He is thinking if it is true, and if he is doing something wrong. Especially when he started asking Captain Beatsy a couple of "what ifs" about whats going on.

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  25. On page Clarisse says to Montag "You always seem so shocked." Why do you think she said this and why does he always look shocked?

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    1. I think that he is just surprised that he hasn't met anyone like her.

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    2. He is starting to realize that what he's doing is wrong and he just hasn't thought about all the damages that he has done.

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  26. Going back to pauls question when he said "why is society backward"? I think society is backward because every one is different and has their own opinions. Also the lack of structure is setting all of this off

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  27. What is the overall message is the author trying to reach out in this chapter?

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  28. What is the point of the fake 'Ben Franklin being the first fireman' part of the book?

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    1. I think that it shows that with out stuff like books in this society, people can be easily manipulated to believe anything the powerful people want them to belive

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    2. The new government wants to show that the past was not much different than it is today.

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  29. Has Montag read a book? In the book he says "Once upon a time" and than he realizes his wife has never read a story. So, has Montag read a book? If he had he must have read it before he met Clarrise. Is Clarrise just a part of the story that he read making her an illusion making him more and more rebellious with a free mind.

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    1. Are books, or the knowledge that books hold, what separate people like Clarisse from the rest of the society?

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  30. ""You can stop counting" she said. She opened the fingers of one hand slightly and in the palm of the hand was a slender object. An ordinary kitchen match." p 39. Why did she want to stay in the wreckage? What was her motivation? Do you think she simply wanted to bask in the knowledge, just one last time?

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  31. Why did the women not want to move away from the fire? What knowledge or story could be so precious that she was willing to die for? I would imagine something special.

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  32. i noticed how this society is not too different from our own, considering the way we push out those who have uncommon interests.

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    1. I agree because we tend to hangout and befriend those who have the same interests as us or like the same things as we do. But those who don't we may still be friends with them but we tend to not because they don't like the same things as us.

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  33. For today's society to become how the society is in this book, I think a large event like a war happened. The government probably used war or disease or something else as a scapegoat to start dumbing down society

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  34. "By the time he reached the subway, there were vague stirrings of disease in him." (32) Clarrisses absence has led Montag to realize that something is wrong with his life.

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  35. Is Montag's wife dying or is she always like this?

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  36. "The men above were hurling shovelfuls of magazines into the dusty air. They fell like slaughtered birds and the woman stood below, like a small girl, among the bodies" pg. 37. Why do you think Bradbury described the books as being so life like?

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  37. If you had Montag's job, how would you feel, doing what he does? I think I would feel somewhat guilty.

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    1. I would as well! But it's hard to say because we are not in that type of society today.

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    2. Well in that society I think its normal, so I don't think I would feel guilty if I was brought up in A society like that. If I knew what I know now I would feel very guilty.

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    3. If we know what we know now about all of this. Then I would feel guilty about doing as well.

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    4. Yeah I would feel guilty about doing what Montag does too

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  38. I think that a good connection that I had never thought about. When you think about it, there are a lot of underlying hints that Montag is keeping and reading books, like the point that Sean brought up the way he spoke at times.

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  39. why is montags wife so weird and different?

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  40. Is this book a commentary about how technology and media have started to take over our lives?

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  41. With seans question "Is Clarissa is real?" I think that she might be a figure of imagination. it is just a sign of Montag's Insanity.

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  42. i don't think clarrise is real, I believe she is a manifestation of his hidden desire to be an individual. Maybe she represents the aspect of his personality that would of been if he grew up in a society where difference is accepted.

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  43. Are the firemen compared to Nazi Germany; burn things and people that don't follow their views?

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    1. I think that it is like a form of that. Terrorism?

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  44. Going back to Shaun question "him saying that is Clarise fake" I think she is real but she is different then all the other people and i feel like she is very shy?

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  45. Fire is a main theme of this book. I feel that Clarrise like fire as she spreads through Montags mind as he is starting to see things as they really are. Soon his flame will start threw his wife's and everyone around him. To see how things are they really are.

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  46. Do you think that this book was meant to show how easily people can be manipulated if certain people are given enough power. And what to Sean said about they don't want people to have knowledge. I think that when people ave enough knowledge, they are smart enough to realize the flaws in their society, without the knowledge that wouldn't happen.

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  47. On pg. 33, montag starts repeating numbers and days of the week in patterns, does this have any relevance to his state of mind or being?

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  48. I agree with Ms Leclaire on how facial expressions are a huge part in the way we communicate today

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  49. I don't like talking to people and being on the stop.

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  50. There were a few quotes that I wanted to share.

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  51. Blogging is almost like a day off because yesterday I was a leader and laying low and blogging was nice.

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  52. I choose to comment because it gives me more time to think and come up with something meaningful and well thought out.

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  53. Blogging isn't my preferred way, but its relaxing to just watch a debate or discussion go on.

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  54. Blogging gives me time to think over my thoughts and organize them before I share them.

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  55. I chose to blog instead of talking because I don't like talking to people, and would rather type.

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  56. It is easier to prove your point on the Blog.

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  57. I sat on the outside because sharing my through a computer is a lot easier

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  58. Because I like typing and I don't like talking to people

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  59. I chose to blog because usually for me its easier to do it on the blog, I can see exactly what other people are saying and I can spend more time thinking about how to respond to them and what my own questions should be.

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  60. I'd rather sit on the outside because it allows me to revise my comments before publishing them. When I'm in the circle there is no way to revise the comments that come out of my mouth.

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  61. I chose blogging, because I prefer to get my thoughts down on the internet without being interrupted by someone or not sure when to come in. Than I can think on my own and think my own thoughts rather than just listening and changing my mind I get flustered sometimes.

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  62. I don't like talking in front of the whole class. I usually only do it if I absolutely have too.

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  63. id rather be a blogger because i feel more comfortable blogging than rather talking

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  64. Should there be laws against population in this world, would it make things better?

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    1. It might make things better, but it'd be extremely in humane to dictate lives and reproduction.

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    2. Yes in certain areas that can't hold a lot of people and the area is polluted. Like China.

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    3. I agree with Hannah. In certain areas of the world like China or India we need to learn to control population growth. I definitely think that it would make life better.If we dont resources are going to come scarce.

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    4. I think that even if there are rules for population, it's really never going to stop because not everyone is going to listen to the rules. It can cause chaos to around other people's lives.

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  65. "Mildred backed away as if she were suddenly confronted by a pack of mice that had come up out of the floor." (63) Why did Montag decide to show his wife the books he have been hiding at that moment?

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  66. What does the music box symbolize?

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  67. "Established, 1790 to burn English-influenced books in the Colonies. First Fireman: Benjamin Franklin."

    How can history just change like that?
    Was every book with real history burned?

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    1. They always say that History is changed by the victor, but in this case it seems that history was changed by the government to control people.

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    2. Probably because the government for some reason doesn't want the world to know what actually used to happen.

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    3. I think that they might have bent the truth a little bit. I think that perhaps Benjamin Franklin might have burned books because he was against British rule but it wasn't a normal thing

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  68. "Go on" Said the women, and Montag felt himself back away and away out the door,... He was too late. Montag gasped. Pg 39 Why did the women burn herself in the fire instead of leaving the house?

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    1. Well, she was going to die anyway, so why not die with the thing that she loves most.

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    2. Well that was really blunt, but I think she knew when her time was about to come for her.

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  69. How can this society be so corrupted?

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    1. To them they dont know any different. They dont know how things were in the past, so to them the society them live in is normal.

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    2. But it is corrupted with people thinking more and being interested in more than everyone else. Like Clarisse. The society wants everyone to be the same and have the same thoughts but there are people like Clarisse, who think more and go outside of what society wants. Thats what can make the society so corrupt.

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  71. Does 451 symbolize anything deeper then just the temperature books are burned?

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    1. I think it symbolizes how negative our society can be if it happens later in the future.

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  72. 'Fireman in Seattle purposely set a mechanical hound to his own chemical complex and let it loose' it sounds like everyone is losing their mind or something and they are just trying to cause havoc in the world.

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    1. It seems like people are starting to realize what the world has become, and want to make an impact on the way of life, even if it means that they give up their life. this is also shown on pg 39 "The woman replied quietly,"I want to stay here," when the woman chooses to stay in the house of books.

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  73. On page 34 the idea that the first fireman was Ben Franklin who burned British books in 1790. Why do you think that the government is trying to change history? Is it to stop something like a revolution or a uprising?

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    1. The government is trying to control the people, by feeding them "pleasure", and keeping their minds dull so they don't have time to think about things, so the government could be trying to prevent an uprising.

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    2. I think the government is trying to cover up the past so that people dont have imagination. They dont want anyone to be different from someone else.

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  74. "Established, 1790 to burn English-influenced books in the Colonies. First Fireman: Benjamin Franklin."
    What would make the government need to change history? Are they covering something up?

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  75. Do you think that the hound can sense his doubt, or fear?
    "Montag, I see you came in the back door this time. The Hound bother you?"

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  76. ¨Im full of bits and pieces,¨ Said Beatty. ¨Most fire captains have to be. Sometimes I surprise myself. (pg 40) do you think Beatty know more about the past then hes giving off? Will he tell Montag these things?

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    1. No because it seems like people in the society are very secretive. I don't think Beatty wants the past to come back and he doesn't want to put ideas in peoples head.

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  77. f you had Montag's job, how would you feel, doing what he does?

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  78. Is knowledge more powerful than then life or even the law? Why?

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  79. "But they all say the same things and nobody says anything different from anyone else." On page 31 Will Montag understand his true reality and not be so simple minded ?

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    1. I don't think he's being simple minded, everyone in the book has been kind of taught to go along with what ever happens, but he is slowly starting to realize what is actually going on.

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  80. On page 30 the author states "Sometimes i'm ancient. I'm afraid of children my own age." What does he mean by hes ancient? Does he feel old?

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  81. "Sometimes I'm ancient. I'm afraid of children my own age. They kill each other."(30) Is the future going to be like this? Looking at the number of school shootings we can see the amount of violence that is just becoming the norm. Clarisse is abnormal in their time period,she does not like the violence. In the future it could be possible that we numb our selves to the violence so when it happens it is just an ordinary thing.

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  82. What is the bigger picture behind the symbolism of fire? Did the government use violence to make people feel as though they were rebelling to drown out any true rebellion? Why is the higher government rarely mentioned and why do people focus on the physical attributes to decide their leader?

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  83. Why was the author so sure that the world would become more dangerous? It is almost like he wants it to happen because in this book he is creating what he thinks the world is going to be in the future and it is really dark and deadly.

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    1. I think rather than Ray Bradbury wanting this to happen he portrays his story as a terrible place saying things like "...head for a Fun Park to bully people" (page 30) "People hurt each other nowadays" (pg 30) "six of my friends have been shot in the last year" (pg 30) by portraying things like this I think he is trying to get people to dislike how the government taking control of their lives.

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  84. "People don't talk about anything" (page 31)
    To me people don't really talk about stuff that matters anymore they just talk about stuff like clothes, and sports, and sports stats, and cars, and things that just don't matter. Can anyone else agree with this statement?

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    1. Are you talking about in the book? Or in our world today?

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    2. I agree because i think people don't want to talk about all the bad things in the world and where we are headed as a race

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    3. I agree, but people just talk about those things because they're positive things that people enjoy. It helps you get away from all the negative in our world today.

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  85. Why did Montag steal a book when he knows how illegal it is?
    Why'd he pick this specific book?

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    1. He is curious now that he has met the girl, so his curiosity pushes him to take a book to see the result as well as the content of the book

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  86. When Clarisse said that people didn't talk about things anymore what did she mean?

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    1. People don't have actual conversations with each other. When she told Montag that her family stays up to talk, he was shocked and wanted to know what they talk about.

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    2. I think she is emphasizing on the fact that creativity is being smothered, like how they want to destroy books. A lot of human conversation wouldn't be interesting without a little bit of creativity.

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    3. She is saying that nobody feels comfortable talking about what they really feel because of all the restrictions they have

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  87. What benefit does burring the books in the story have on their society? If there is a benefit to it

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    1. I think they burn books, so then people don't think outside the box and they will just continue on with their life. Or so then they don't learn from their past mistakes.

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    2. It allows the government to stay in control of things and keep life the way they want to keep life.

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    3. In my opinion burning the books in this society keeps the people away from imagination and being different from other people. Thats what the government wants. Everyone to be equal. I dont believe it is beneficial because we live in a society with books and where everyone is their own individual, without these things life would be boring.

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  88. ""You can stop counting" she said. She opened the fingers of one hand slightly and in the palm of the hand was a slender object. An ordinary kitchen match." p 39. Why did she want to stay in the wreckage? What was her motivation? Do you think she simply wanted to bask in the knowledge, just one last time?

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    1. She just didn't want to lose that part of her. She had read them and learned a lot from them and in a way, actually "talked" with her.

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  89. 'To have fireman burn our houses or our books' is he saying that the fireman are starting fires instead of fighting them? It makes them sound mentally insane

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    1. Yes because now that's what has happened to the society. Fireman don't fight fires anymore, they burn the books and start the fires.

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  90. On page 33 the author states "These men were all mirror images of himself." Could they possibly be clones since we don't now the date it takes place?

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    1. I dont think they are clones, they just all pretty much think and act the same. No one is really that different than everyone else

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  91. Books can lead to violence, but books can also lead people away from it. It depends on the book. Why is the government so fearful of literature? I read the Book Thief and in that the Nazis burnt many books out of fear. Is the new government in a way like the Nazis, they want everything to be that same and no one to speak out or be their own person.

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    1. I feel like the government is threatened by people evolving like they don't want them to realize how crazy life is now. I think that the only people that like the way the world is now is the government.

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    2. I believe that the government is burning books so that they can control what the people think. Lets say that they had a history book that contained the life of Hitler. Do you think that people would appreciate what the government was doing?

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  92. "Montag's hand closed like a mouth, crushed the book with wild devotion."(37)
    Did he find thrill in destroying the book? Does he let anger and devotion get the best of him?

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    1. I think he did find a thrill because in the beggining in the book he talks about how he loves burning them and i think he gets the same feeling when he destroys it

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    2. Like Andy said Montag does still get a joy out of burning books but also I think Clarisse makes him angry in some ways so I think this is his way of dealing with that anger.

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  93. On page 38 the author states "The books lay like great mounds of fishes." How could books lay like fishes?

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    1. They are just thrown into piles, and disregarded as something significant.

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    2. I think the books lay unorganized. They lay in all different directions and toppled over each other. A pile of fish has a similar structure to this sloppy pile of books.

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  94. I think that he is beginning to get complacent. He is tired of his position as a "fire fighter" and he is tired of this boring society.

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  95. What does the flaking three story house symbolize in the city?

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  96. In the quote on page 37 it says "You were simply just cleaning up"
    Could it be that people like Montag in our society are so detached from what is actually happening in the real world

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    1. Ya I think Montag and other people in our society are just so oblivious to what is actually going on. They can be doing something they think is good, but in reality they are doing something terrible.

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    2. I agree with that because I think that the government has somehow brainwashed everyone and Montag is starting to realize how messed up society is.

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  97. "But now, tonight, someone had slipped. This woman was spoiling the ritual. The men were making too much noise, laughing, joking, to cover her terrible accusing silence below." -Pg. 37; Par. 2

    These lines show how common the burning of books is, and how repetitive there lives were.

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    1. It also shows how a change in the routine can affect people in this world. They were clearly affected by the thought that someone would stand against the rules, and how easy it is.

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  98. Bradbury thinks that society is getting worse. He shows us this future where the government went to the extreme in keeping everything perfect. He shows us what happens when humans lose their connection to one another. Most people in this society are empty and a lot of them try to take their own life. The women who burns in the fire felt a connection to the books, she wanted to die with them rather than go on without them. In a way books are the only thing that are living in this society. "Montag felt the hidden book pound like a heart against his chest."

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  99. The main conflict of the book is burning books. How could this happen to a society? Could it be that people start to read less and less that they no longer appreciate books and they believe that books are no longer necessary as a part of society?

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    1. I think the main conflict is between Montag and realizing what is going on in society

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  100. Why is the school system in their society not teaching them anything? Why?

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    1. Their school system is not based off of history and textbooks, therefor they have their own way of teaching. They teach what they want to teach, which isn't always productive.

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  101. I get sort of Utopian feel in the society meaning everything is perfect sort of like the clip we watched earlier in the year from the movie Pleasantville, nothing went wrong and everyone was perfect, except in this case it seems perfect but everything is messed up and wrong.

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  102. I think that fire represents destruction, the fire men don't help people anymore they burn their things.

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  103. Do you think that the society in F451 is solely opposed to books in general, or is it the controversial and different opinions present in them?

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  104. "Your uncle said, your uncle said. Your uncle must be a remarkable man." (31) Who is Clairisse's uncle? What significance does he have on the future of Montag and Clairisse? Do we ever meet him?

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    1. It is doubtful that Clairisse's uncle is a major character in this book, he is probably just a man that has held onto the past ideology. His influence over Clairisse has made her values the same as his, but he is not a central character.

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  105. Do you think her uncle is an important person in the book or do you think she just thinks highly of him?

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    1. Yes I strongly believe that Clarisse's uncle plays a major role in her life because he is the one that tells her stories and theories about how it used to be. I think that the things that her uncle tells her might contribute to her problem with being "insane".

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  106. How do you think Clarisse being gone will later or currently affect Montag?

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  107. "Her eyes wide and staring at the fathoms of blackness over her in the ceiling." (I don't have the page number for original book) Why is she just staring into "space" or the ceiling? Does it have to do with her being obsessed with the TV on her walls and it is her only time to get away from it? Could this have anything to do with her emotions?

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  108. "Six of my friends have been shot in the last year alone." Why do you think that in such a strict society, there's not much security?

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  109. "Had he ever ever seen a fireman that didn't have black hair, black brows, a fiery face, and a blue-steel shaved but unshaved look?" (33) What does this quote mean if all the fireman look the same? Does it have to do with being a Utopian society?

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  110. On page 32, it says, "Five, six, seven days. And then Clarisse was gone." Do you think this is foreshadowing something later to come? What is going to happen to Clarisse?

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  111. On page 30 Clarisse says to Montag "Do you ever notice how people hurt each other nowadays?" Why do you think everyone is turning so violent toward each other?

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