Monday, March 10, 2014

We're English 10 Nerds and Loving It: March 10, 2014

Focus: What does our future look like, according to Bradbury?

1. Exploring your thoughts on censorship: Agree, disagree, unsure (while you're working on this, I'm going to check out your yellow observation charts)

2. Quickly reviewing fishbowl expectations

3. Diving into the world of F451 together with our first fishbowl: Pages 3-28

HW:
1. Our next fishbowl discussion is already upon us tomorrow (Tuesday) if you're in my 1st or 3rd hour class; if you're in my 6th hour, you have until Thursday.  

2. Please read pages 28-40 in F451 and fill out the back of your observation chart.

3. TCAP reminders:

a. Bring a book to read, but leave your blue bookmark at home.

b. Leave your cell phones in your lockers.

c. Long constructed response: Start with an introductory paragraph, follow with 2-3 body paragraphs, then end with a conclusion.  Show them that you know how to write.  Bring in specific examples, and use up as much of the space as you can.

d. Short constructed response: Start with a thesis/topic sentence, bring in specific examples, and use up as much of the space as you can.

221 comments:

  1. On page 6, "And you must be- She raised her eyes from his professional symbol- the fireman." It seems like she is being rude, doesn't like firemen, or she knows him.

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  2. "Montag grinned the fierce grin of all men singed and driven back by flame." Why would Montag be happy about continuously risking his life? Does he not fear death?

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  3. "Grinned the fierce grin of all men singed and driven back by flame."
    Why is the man grinning as the other men getting singed by the flame? is it representing the man's evil/hatred?

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  4. On page 9, Clarisse says "So I've lost of time for crazy thoughts." Could the girl represent an escape from the conformity that Montag is a part of?

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  5. "....The girl had run across the lawn with the mask..." (pg 12). Why does he say that Clarisse took away his happiness?

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  6. I really do agree with Talen because he said that it represents burning knowledge and destroying change. I agree with this because when they burn the books they are burning the teaching or society and everyday life.

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  7. I think this book has a lot to do with Hitler and how he controlled people and burned books to keep people from becoming smart and realizing that what is happening is wrong.

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  8. By destroying the books it is like its bringing in a new era and symbolizes how hitler destroyed books. "It was a special pleasure to see things eaten to see things blackened" guy, the main character. gets enjoyment from destroying the books and limiting peoples knowledge of the past.

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  9. "Montag grinned the fierce grin of all the men singed and driven back by flame."(page 4) Why do you think that he likes to burn stuff but he is a fire fighter?

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    1. I think that in this future, it is the job of a firemen to burn stuff in stead of stop them. I think he enjoys it because it is a part of their society and he has grown so accustomed to it that he enjoys the thrill of burning stuff.

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    2. He has been taught to think that this is morally correct, and he has been trained and raised to find joy in sticking to the system.

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  11. I believe that the time period when the book was written, being right after WWII, this could really depict and represent that this is how bad it could get if we keep discriminating people and also controlling their knowledge. The characters lives so far are being controlled and "censored". Books have been "banned".

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  12. On page 11 it says, "She almost seemed to be waiting for me there, in the street, so dammed late at night." Do you think the women was really waiting for him? If she was waiting, why do you think she was? What could she be there for?

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  13. "... walked across the upper floor of the fire station and fell down the hole" (4). From this quote it sounds like in this story not much has changed, at least for the firemen, except for what they're supposed to do. Everything appears to be the same plus advancements in medicine and technology, but everyone seems to be brainwashed into thinking that nothing should change.

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  14. What is so different about Clarisse that makes Montag uncomfortable?

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    1. She is socially distant and is very sarcastic.

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    2. She seems to imaginative and creative. She refuses to follow a society that restricts her potential, and people like that appear to be rare.

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    3. She thinks differently than everyone else, she thinks 'outside of the box'. Because of that, Montag is disturbed by the fact that she's different.

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  15. What does society symbolize in this book?

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    1. I think that a lot of people would have a different opinion about this but it could be connected to the time it was written in and what was going on in that time.

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  16. Montag was a fireman whose job is to start fires. Why is he a fireman who starts fires? Irony

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  17. On page 20, they are talking about ripping the wall out, so they can get another TV. I think this shows a lot about their society and how vital the TV is to them. They seem to be a society driven by what is told on the TV, and trying to get rid of what is said in books.

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  18. Why does the society think Clarice is crazy?

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    1. I think that in their society, there is a model citizen that everyone should try to be like, and shes different. She seems like she doesn't want to be like everyone else, and she would like to be unique.

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    2. because she is a free thinker and she isn't following the norm with her daily routine. that's why she's considered crazy.

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  19. "Montag touched the muzzle. The hound growled. Montag jumped back." (25) Is the hound able to sense that Guy is starting to think more freely? I predict negative things will happen to Guy in the future.

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  20. the society thinks Clasisee is crazy because she is socially distant, has different mind set, and therefore the government has labeled her as crazy.

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  21. What do you think makes Clarisse look at things differently from everyone else?

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  22. They think the lady is crazy maybe because she is social distant. Overall, i don't think shes crazy I think the government labels her as crazy making her believe and convice herself she is.

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  23. Do you feel like people in this society are scared of firemen or something else?

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    1. I think people have to respect the fireman for what they do. Then and now.

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    2. I believe that people respect them but just in different way

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  24. In response to Nick's question, what role does Fire play in this novel so far, I think fire and the burning of book represents the burning or ruining of knowledge. An effort to try and withhold the information inside of the books.

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  25. Why do people in the society so badly want tv?

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    1. Because its a new thing and who doesnt want the new stuff

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  26. In the book he says he wants to find out and support why he thinks literature is "confusing and problematic", Could this be why he is burning the books and houses? What is he trying to create for society.? What is he testing?

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  27. If this is set in the future and they are burning all of the books, couldn't the people just go online and look up information and read stuff online?

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    1. The book was written in a time when they didn't know that the internet was possible.

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    2. it still takes place in the future though so...

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  28. Clarisse tells Montag, "I'm not afraid of you at all" (page 7). Why should she be afraid of him? Are firemen a form of evil in this book?

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    1. Deep down people know that what the firemen are doing is immoral and shouldn't be done. They are afraid of them because they know they are doing something that is hurting their lives and restricting benefits, and they are afraid of those rebellious thoughts and the idea of change, even if it is for the good.

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    2. Motang does start fires so i think that represents the form of evil.

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  29. Howe does the government play a role in all of this?

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    1. The government is controlling all of this and probably brought it to be this way. If people are being arrested for driving too slowly or being a pedestrian, the government has complete control over people's lives and how they need to live it.

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  30. On page 6 Clarisse says " and you must be, the fire man" Ray says that she said this oddly. Why did she say this so weirdly but yet she wasn't scared of him being the fireman?

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    1. In a way she is annoyed with him for being a fireman.

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    2. She is annoyed because he thinks she is rude, because he burns books. She thought they used to put out fires, not start fires.

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    3. I think Clarisse could tell by the way he acted. He didn't seem to have any of his own thoughts and I think Clarisse could tell. That was probably why she was acting strange with him because she wasn't sure if she could trust him or not.

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  31. "There are too many of us he thought. There are billions of us and that's too many." pg.16. Do you think he is right? do think that society is over populated and it would be better if there were not so many people?

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  32. Multiple times in society books have been tried to be destroyed; Nazi Germany, the overthrowing of democracy in China, and multiple times in religion switches. Why do leaders try to destroy the past and what about these books anger these people?

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  33. "Do you ever read any of the books you burn?" -Clarisse
    "That's against the law" -Montag (page 8)
    Clarisse is very inquiring of his profession and he is a government worker as a firefighter and when she asks if he ever gets to read the books he laughs. He thinks it is absurd and not the right thing to do. Do you think there is a reason to burn all of the books they do, or what type of books are being burned.

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    1. All books are probably being burned because all books contain something important in them.

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  34. What part do you think society plays in this book?

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  35. On page 7, Clarrise says she isn't afraid of the fire? Are firemen feared?

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  37. The author is trying to tell us that if we aren't careful we will be controlled by the government and other outside sources.

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  38. I think our society is becoming more and more like the F-451 society because of the amount of censorship and control that the government has over the people

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  39. I think in some ways our society is kinda like this book because some people just go with the motion and do anything they are told by the government and believe anything they are told. I also thing the news turns what happens in the world to what they want people to precive it as.

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  40. Why is Montag even called a firefighter if he does the opposite of fight fires?

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  41. Does Clarrise represent chaos in the book?

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  42. In this part of the book they talk about radios and tv's does this show that communication in very important to them?

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  43. Do you think that Clarissa represents rebellion in the book?

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  44. " It was a pleasure to burn. It was a pleasure to see things eaten, to see things blackened and changed." This quote is showing how he things fire eating away objects is pleasurable. Why is this pleasurable to him?

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    1. I think that it represents rebellion how he likes to watch things be eating in the fire. It shows the evil in him

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  45. What does burning books represent? In the book on pg 8, "Do you ever read any of the books you burn?"
    He laughed. "That's against the law!"
    "Oh. Of course." (8) Why did he smirk and answer so clear as if he knew?

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  46. The name Montag means "Monday" in German, it was also a nickname given to people who have a personality associated with the day. What do you think this means? Do you think Bradbury gave him this name for a reason? Also Montag was a Jewish name, and this book was published shortly after WWII. I think that many themes from WWII and the Nazis can be seen in this book. Why do you think he would give Montag a Jewish name when he seems to be more like a WWII Nazi rather than a WWII Jew?

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    1. Many times in the book Montag goes throughout the days like, "One two three four five six seven days". He might only like one day of the week. Also in the story firemen are kind of pushed away and very disliked, like how the jews were in WWII and sometime after that.

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  47. How do you think that his wife trying to commit suicide has an effect on him?

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    1. I think he feels terrible and frightened for his wife's life because he might blame himself for his wife trying to kill himself.

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  48. Clarisse tells Montag, "I'm not afraid of you at all" (page 7). Why should she be afraid of him? Are firemen bad people in this book?

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    1. I think people are afraid of fireman because they burn books, instead of put out fire like we think of them. This is what the Nazi's used to do during WWII, so maybe that's a reason for fear

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  49. "So many people are. Afraid of fireman, I mean. But you're just a man, after all..." Why are people in this society afraid of fireman? Why did the author make firman go from heroes in our world to people to fear in this world?

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    1. I think that they are afraid because in their society fireman burn things that don't conform to society.

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    2. The firemen represent a form of evil because they are destroying things and sometimes end up killing people

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    3. Firemen in this book are known as people who control things and destroy things. They aren't helpful like they are in real life.

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  50. Why does the society think Clarice is crazy?

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    1. It is because she isn't exactly the normal in their society

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    2. They thinks she's crazy, because she does everything differently. Things like walking and driving slow, that we might seem as normal, but in this society they are taboo's that will get you jail time.

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    3. She acts differently than everyone else and actually has her own ideas and thoughts. She pays attentions to things that no one else does. I think it freaks out the society because they want everyone to think the same and be the same person.

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    4. They think Clarice is crazy because she isn't like everyone else.

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  51. "But cars started rushing by so quickly they had to stretch the advertising out so it would last." Why do people zip by so fast and why do they take things for granted.

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    1. I think they zip by because they see if every single day so they don't think anything about it. So they start taking it for granted until it is gone. That is when they slow down just a little and feel bad about appreciating it.

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  52. "Is it true that long ago firemen put fires out instead of starting them?" "No. Houses have always been fireproof, take my word for it."(6)Why/How do you think firefighters changed over the time in this book? Like why do you think their jobs have been reversed then how they are today?

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  53. "If they give you ruled paper, write the other way." Why did the author start the book with a quote? What could this quote mean?

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    1. I think he started with this quote,to show the messege the book is trying to say. That if we are all equal and do everything the same, are society will be destroyed. Also, to show no matter how good communism may sound, it can never work.

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  54. On page 22 " I keep him busy peeling away the layers" What layers do you think he is peeling away?

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    1. He could be peeling away the layers of time as it passes by.

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  55. People care too much about a higher system and in the end it will be the thing to ruin us. People will loose their ability of true free thinking and their fight. We all look for the easy way out which i think this book shows rather beautifully. Eventually We will all be productive members of society but in turn will simply be a heard of sheep with eyes glazed over in the lack of intelligence.

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  56. "Amazing conductor playing all the symphonies of blazing and burning down the tatters and charcoal ruins of history." on page But how does a musical conductor controlling a symphony connects to the fire fighter controlling the flames?

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    1. These connect together because they both control how things take place and if they keep up. A symphony wouldn't keep going without a conductor and a fire fighter controls the flames.

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  57. Why aren't we given a year or place in the book?

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    1. I think because this way it opens up possibilities. It lets your imagination run wild, wondering where and when could this possibly happen? Having a date could restrict the book because once that year comes you could say what happened in this book will never actually happen.

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  58. Was Montag trying to light the house on fire or was it on accident?

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    1. He is purposely burning the books inside the house

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    2. Yes he was because it says he was in the book. It also says how he enjoyed doing that.

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    3. I honestly think that he was simple minded and enjoyed the destruction of the burning house, since that's part of his job now as being a fire fighter.

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  59. Does burning books symbolize the destruction of knowledge? If not, what does it symbolize?

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    1. It does symbolize knowledge being burned away because since this book is in the future, that means the books could contain a lot of information about human history or something else. But yes they books hold knowledge that's being taken away for the future.

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  60. On page 15 the author states "His anger did not even touch them." Is his anger not frightening? What does he mean by his the anger didn't touch them?

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  61. "It was a special pleasure to see things eaten, to see things blackened and changed." Why does Montag get such a joy out of burning things, will that change as the book goes on?

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  62. Why is the book called Fahrenheit 451? What is the reason behind the number 451?

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    1. 451 is the temperature at which paper burns

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    2. It might be a symbol of his helmet because that has 451 on it to.

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  63. "The psychiatrist wants to know why I go out and hike around in the forest and watch the birds and collect butterfly's" In this society has all emotion died? Is this why his wife tried to take her life? She feels empty? The emergency services said that this was normal.

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  64. On page 5 it says "He saw himself in her eyes, suspended in two shining drops of bright water, himself dark and tiny, in fine detail..." What did he think of himself after he met Clarisse?

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  65. On page 12 it states,"He was not happy. He was not happy." Do you think he realized to look at the world differently and actually see what his life was like? And that's why he finally decided that he wasn't happy?

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    1. I think deep down he did realize that he really didn't think clearly of what he's doing in his life and he wants to change that.

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    2. I think Clarisse is kind of waking him up and he is realizing what is going on around him and in his life

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    3. I think hes finally realizing and coming to terms with that hes been lied to his whole life. He wants to be truly happy like Clarisse was talking about.

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  66. In this book everyone seems to hide who they are, wearing a mask, covering their faces. What do you think is more beautiful, the fact that everyone in the society is equally pretty or the fact that Clarisse is trying to come t terms with the fact that you dont need the mask?

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  67. Does Montag enjoy the adrenaline of burning the books down to the ground in the house?

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    1. He enjoys the adrenaline because that's what he enjoys doing and he is destructive.

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  68. "Do you ever read any of the books you burn?" "That's against the law!" (pg.8)
    Why are books illegal?

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    1. I think books are illegal because they can make you smarter. If the goal is to make everyone have equal intelligence, then you have to eliminate anything that can boost your intelligence.

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  69. Is there a deeper reason why his wife might of killed herself?

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    1. I think she is unhappy on the inside. She probably wants something better than the life she has and by taking the pills, it made all the pain go away and made life simpler. I think she knew that taking more and more pills, it would help her drift off and let go of life.

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  70. On Page 26 the author states "Talked across the long room." Why does the author refer to the room as long?

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  71. On page 11 it says, "She almost seemed to be waiting for me there, in the street, so dammed late at night." Do you think the women was really waiting for him? Why do you think she was?

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    1. In another part of the book she says, "You're not like the others" (pg25)
      I think that Clarisse was waiting for him because Montag was different than all the other firemen so she wanted to talk to him more and find out more about why he was a fireman because he didn't fit in.

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  72. "The Hound growled / Montag jumped back." (pg 25)

    The book never mentions the hound ever growling at Montag before. Could the Hound suddenly dislike him because his thoughts are changing after talking to Clarisse?

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    1. That is my inference as well, I believe that after talking to Clarisse he started thinking and one thought led to another...

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  73. "One of them slid down unto your stomach like a black cobra down an echoing well looking for all the old water and old time gathered there"
    Why is so much description used? Montag uses so much simile in everything, like when describes the machine or the dog. Is he just hyper aware of everything?

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  74. How did the time change to fire fighters burning down houses instead of hosing them down with water?

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  75. Who defines normal in this society? What happens if you go against it?

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  76. "DO you read any of the books you burn?¨ He laughed "Thats against the law.¨ Do you think its against the law to read these books because the government doesnt want them to have an imagination?

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  77. Is it better to be normal in this society and be safe, or be in danger but live fully.

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  78. What did Clarisse mean when she said that Montag should rub the dandelions on his chin on page 19? What did it symbolize?

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    1. She was saying that if the pollen rubbed off it would mean that he was in love. If it didn't, he wouldn't be. This shows imagination and creative thinking, which is lacking in their society.

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    2. When Clarisse rubs it on his chin and it does not rub off one him, meaning he is not in love. The only person that he thinks he loves is his wife but, according to the flower he does not love her. He has no feelings for his own wife and I think this is because he thinks different now because of the girl, Clarisse. I also think this represents him pulling away from the normal society.

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  79. Does society play a big role in the story? if so, how?

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    1. I think the society in this story plays a big role because it is very controlling. There are many references already in the book showing that the people don't seem to have very much freedom. Also it shows that the government and or the firefighters lie to the citizens such as the fire fighter saying, "houses have always been fireproof" on pg 8 which is clearly not true.

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    2. In the story in general society absolutely plays a big role in this story. What the society in this story considers "normalcy" differs from present day. When Guy is the one person who begins to challenge the rules of the society, rules that almost everyone considers normal. "The hound doesn't like me" page 28 The hound senses something that is in Guy that goes against societies norms.

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  80. On page 8 Clarisse asks Montag "Is it true that long ago firemen put fires out instead of going to start them?" Why does Montag seem taken back by Clarisse's question?

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    1. I think that he seems so taken back because, his job is to set things on fire, and he feels justice doing that. He can't imagine a time when people do the opposite of what he does every day.

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    2. His reality is that firemen are men that set fire to things and the firemen of the olden days had to have been an alien thought to him because it contradicts his present mindset.

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    3. It seems that Montag is so taken back at the question is because even though he was taught to know that there was never a time where a house wasn't fire proof, she still disbelieves him. He becomes angered to the idea that she does not respect what he does but it also seems that by her doing so, she causes him to actually question and look at things very differently then societal norms.

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    4. I believe the people of this society that the book is taking place in, the common people are not informed of their past, I also believe that is another reason that they are told to burn the books, they don't want the people to learn about their past.

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  81. "Do you ever read any of the books you burn?" "That's against the law!" (pg.8)
    Why do you think are books illegal? And do you think Clarisse will read a book at some point during the book?

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    1. I believe that the way the society is set up, the government does not want anyone expanding their knowledge or being creative, these are qualities that the books provide you and that is why I believe that the books are being burned.

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    2. I think that the books could be illegal because they show different points of subjects and most books have free thinking and people express themselves but in this society everyone is supposed to think the same thing and do the same thing. Books could be seen as a threat to the government because they give people a freedom to say what they think.

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  82. Why do you think Montag is worried about people finding something in the ventilator grille in his house?

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  83. Before reading, Ray Bradbury puts the quote, "If they give you ruled paper, write the other way." Why do you think Ray Bradbury put this quote? Does it connect to the story somehow?

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    1. Ray put the quote in because it does compare to the story a lot. Clarisse is the one that is writing the other way. She does not follow by society, she does what she wants to do and doesn't care what people thinks of her. She is living life better than anyone else and is really happy with her life, compared to Montag who did not seem happy.

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    2. I think that he put this quote in because everyone in this society is so conformed and then there is Clarisse who is just totally out there and seems not to care that she isn't like anyone else. Maybe further in the book Clarisse will begin to change Montag in some way that he begins to question the conformist life that they all have been living.

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  84. On page 22 Montag says "I am very much in love!". This was obviously a sensitive subject that was brought up. I believe that Montag and Mildred have lost the fire in their marriage. I don't think that he really loves Mildred anymore. She must be uninterested due to her suicide attempt.

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    1. What does it mean when Montag said on page 22, "It won't work for me." about the dandelion rubbing on his chin. But then he goes on the defense and says that he is in love. Why does he do this though?

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    2. I agree with this Mr. Plantz. And even when Clarisse asked if he was happy. She might see more than Guy can see, because he refuses to see it.

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    3. He is defensive because he isn't truly in love anymore Corbin. Realistically the dandelion was out of pollen CORBIN. IT'S CALLED SYMBOLISM CCCCCCCCCCOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOORRRRRRRRRRRBBBBBBBBBBIIIIIIIIIINNNNNNNNNNNNNNNN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!11

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  86. "...the small crystal bottle of sleeping tablets which earlier today had been filled with thirty capsules and which now lay uncapped and empty..."(13) Why would Mildred try killing herself? Does she just hate life? And then she doesn't remember anything, is that an effect of the amount of pills she took?

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  87. Are firefighters a dominant profession in this society? Do they have a lot of power? Are people normally afraid of them?

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    1. Well, according to Clarisse at the beginning, she stated that normally, people would be afraid of Montag because he's a fireman. I think that fireman have the most power just because of what they do for a living. Although, they are fireman, they are also just men.

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    2. From what the book has already said, it seems that the firemen hold a lot of power. Clarisse said to Montag in one of their conversations that he is different than the others in the way that he acknowledges her existence. From this it seems like the firemen think they are better then everyone else and choose to ignore anyone who isn't important to them.

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    3. I think that in their society firemen are almost "symbols" of destruction and the norms of their society. Because they burn books, one of the biggest forms of free thinking, they are seen as the image of their society and the reason for the way they live the way they do.

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    4. I think that people are afraid of them because they destroy things. They have to have a lot of power because they have to be working for the government because the whole reason they are burning things down, they want people to be equal by limiting their knowledge.

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  88. Why is Mildred suicidal? In this society they aren't supposed to think too much, so how did she come to this?

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  89. "Her face was slender and milk white, and it was a kind of gentle hunger that touched over everything with tireless curiosity" (8) Is Ray Bradbury secretly saying that Clarisse is a very interesting person and as the story goes on she will take off this mask she is wearing and show her true self to Guy Montag?

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    1. I think that this is her true self because she seems so open about everything in her life. She goes against the grain and that is who she is, yet maybe I'm wrong and the book surprises us with a change in her identity.

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  90. "Turned to him now, was fragile milk crystal with soft and constant light in it" (pg.7) The narrator is describing the way Clarisse looks. This quote shows how Clarisse seems like clean & more pure person compared to Montag who is dirty by his image of being a fireman. Does Montag being a fireman affect what society thinks of him? How?

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    1. I think that the author is trying to show that Clarisse is innocent, and happy, while Montag is dirty, and burns things for a living. Montag is much more rough, and destroys many things everyday.

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  91. Since people say that Clarisse is insane, is it because she reads books? Do you think she has such a curious mind because she reads books?

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    1. The banning of books must have depleted all attention to detail in the society in this book. I think she does read books or she had learned from people who read books because Clarisse pays so much attention to detail.

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    2. I think people call her insane, because she's happy, curious, and different than everybody in their society. They think she's crazy because she doesn't follow the normal path of society.

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  92. "with his symbolic helmet numbered 451 on his stolid head" Page 3. Why is his helmet Symbolic ? and why is his number 451 ?

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    1. 451 is the degree at which they burn the paper and the houses.

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  93. "You think too many things," said Montag, uneasily. What Clarisse is saying seems to be normal things that shouldn't like offend anyone or make them uncomfortable. I feel like if she said that kind of stuff in like today's world then it probably not have a second thought given to it, but in the book it seems to be so weird for her to be telling him things and giving him her opinion. Why is it so weird? Like why does it make him so uneasy that she has different opinions on things than what she is told?

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  94. Even though Montag is married and his wife is suicidal, do you think Guy's wife will die later and then Clarisse and Guy will be a couple in the future?

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  95. The way Mildred and Montag act towards each other, then on page 22 Clairisse rubs a dandelion on Montag's chin and says "if it rubs off, it means I'm in love" when rubbing it on her chin. Do Montag and his wife not love each other? In which case, why are they married? Or were they once, it just fell away?

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  96. Do you think that Clarisse represents chaos in the book?

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    1. I think that Clarisse does represent chaos to a degree in this book, but she also represents freedom, and being different than everybody in their society. She has some mystery about her, and represents a different era.

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    2. I do think she represents something but I don't think I would say she represents chaos. This is because she keeps appearing in the book but she has not done anything to cause trouble. Clarisse does seem to be like messing with him in a way but I don't think she represents chaos.

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    3. I don't necessarily think that she represents chaos but she does help Montag shake up his mind. So maybe she represents the chaos in Montag's mind.

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    4. I don't think she represents chaos, but more of life and putting herself out there. Clarisse shows the way people should be living their lives. She takes all of her surroundings in and just lives life to the fullest, which may make society think she causes chaos.

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  97. "He felt that if his eye itched, she might blink. And if the muscles of his jaws stretched imperceptibly, she would yawn long before he would." What do you think this quote means, and why do you think that Clarisse can do so much more than Montag can?

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  98. How is Mildred suicidal if they aren't allowed to think to deeply about things? Like I had a friend who was suicidal and he was always telling me about how he would over think things and he thought too much and too into things that made him go crazy. So in this society if they are not allowed to think things through then why would she be suicidal?

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    1. Maybe she wasn't suicidal. On page 15 it says people often go to the emergency room. The repetition in their lives could be causing them to forget things and accidentally overdose.

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  99. When Clarisse ask Guy if he was happy on page 10, what was she taking about? Was she taking general, or specific? His job as a fireman or his life married?

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    1. I believe she was talking about life in general. She was asking if he is happy in his routine, and in his daily life which seems very bland to her.

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    2. I think she was asking if he was proud of his life so far or if he goes about his everyday life questioning what he is doing with his life.

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    3. I think that even though she was asking the question in that moment, she intended for it to be more general. On page 10 it explains that she left even before he was able to get an answer out. This would give the question more time to soak in and shows she had no intention of knowing his feelings in the moment.

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  100. "...and burning to bring down the tatters and charcoal ruins of history." Is he trying to escape his history or the history of his society? He is permanently destroying the books and the houses he is burning, I wonder if he feels any regret or guilt? What happens to the people who live in those houses?

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    1. I think that maybe everyone in society could be brainwashed into thinking things like books could be bad. He seems to be very content with his work and doesn't show any regret in what he does.

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  101. On page 24, it says "...and then, very slowly, as he walked, he tilted his head back in the rain, for just a few moments and opened his mouth." What about Clarisse causes Guy to begin to question his surroundings and spend time thinking about the world he lives in?

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  102. On page 15 in the Emergency room Montag realizes there aren't any M.D. The workers in the room reply "We get these cases nine or ten a night. Got so many, starting a few years ago, we had the special machines built." Do you believe this new form of treatment is a good idea? How does this quick fix effect a person and the society in the long run?

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  103. Since reading books is illegal does that make the firemen good people for lighting the books on fire and to get rid of them so that nobody can break the law?

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    1. I think of the firemen like policemen. Burning the books to prevent people from breaking the law.

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  104. It seems like this book has a very strong connection to the holocaust. Hitler burned a lot of books and controlled a lot of people to keep them from knowing what is going on. I think that this could be about second holocaust in the future where firemen are possibly in control and they are trying to destroy all the books so there is less freedom in society therefore, making a more safe world.

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  105. "In the late afternoon it rained and the entire world was dark grey." (19) Said by Montag. Why is it the whole world is dark grey and not just the place/town? It would make more sense if he said place but I'm guessing that world has or of an impact maybe?

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  106. Montag states "It was a special pleasure to see things eaten, to see things blackened and changed.". What appeals to Montag about fire? Is he just a pyro or is there a deeper meaning behind this?

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  107. How do you think society in this book is different from society in our modern world?

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  108. On page 10, Montag says "He stood looking up at the ventilator grille in the hall and suddenly remembered that something lay hidden behind the grille, something that seemed to peer down at him now. He moved his eyes quickly away." And mentions it again on page 27, "But Montag did not move and only stood thinking of the ventilator grille in the hall at home and what lay hidden behind the grille. If someone here in the firehouse knew about the ventilator then mightn't they 'tell' the Hound?..." Well what could possibly be behind the grille? A camera watching him? Obviously it's something secret that no one else must know about.

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  109. I think he really likes the feel of the fires and it makes feel good in away. I do not think he is putting on a fake smile because the way it is described seems like he really enjoys it, really enjoys burning stuff.

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  110. Why is it that Guy Montag enjoys burning the house down? What is his story? " Later, going to sleep, he would feel the fiery... as long as he remembered." (page 4)

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  111. I believe that thoughts and ideas need to be simulated. As displayed in the relationship between Clarisse and Guy. After talking with her Guys thoughts started to wander. I believe that is another reason why the books are banned, books stimulate ideas and thoughts.

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  112. Why do you think a major part of their society is burning books? Does it have a connection to the idea of looking down upon people who are free thinkers and ask questions like when Montag says "You think to many things," to Clarisse?

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  113. On page 27, Montag talks about the thing that's hidden behind the ventilator in his house, and how no one can find out what it is. What do you think is hidden and why is it so bad that he has it?

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