Monday, April 7, 2014

We're English 10 Nerds and Loving It: April 7, 2014

Focus: What aspects of our society is Bradbury warning us about?

1. Warming up: Questioning so called "reality" TV

Viewing a quick clip on The Hunger Games and how "reality" TV affects our lives

Brainstorming a few concepts together...

a. What is reality TV?

b. What types/genres of reality TV have you noticed?

c. To what extent is reality TV real, and to what extent is it fake?

d. Why do you think reality TV has become so popular? Why do we watch it?

e. In Fahrenheit 451, how does TV fictionalize the end of Montag's chase?  Why?

For ideas, please peruse this article on reality TV.


2. Enjoying our final fishbowl together: The ending of Fahrenheit 451

3. Wrapping up: What is your big takeaway from this novel?

HW:
1. If you have never seen The Truman Show, please watch the trailer by clicking HERE.

2. Work on your book talk.

250 comments:

  1. On page 143 it says, "The land rushed at him, a tidal wave". Why would land, something that cannot move, rush at him? Could this be another way of showing how everything seems to be working against him?

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  2. “Chicago... Thats where MIllie and I met” (160) It is relieving to hear that Montag remembers and a delightful memory

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    1. This was definitely something important in his life.

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  3. On page 170,"Don't you see the beauty Montag? I never read them. Not one book, not one chapter, not one page, not one paragraph." When Beatty said this, what do you think Montag was thinking?

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    1. I think that Montag is thinking that he doesn't know what he is missing if he hasn't read. He has no clue what is being hidden from him.

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  4. What will Montag do with the scholars he met up with?

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  5. I don't think getting rid of diversity gets rid of violence, people will find ways to disagree with each other regardless.

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    1. Getting rid of diversity would eliminate violence. A violence implies that there is some diversity. Violence can not exist without diversity, diversity can exist without violence.

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  6. "Montag walked slowly toward the fire" pg. 147. Is it hard for Montag to deal with fire now? Does it mean something different to him now that it has consumed his life?

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    1. I think it does, since he had to burn his own house, maybe the fire scares him now when he sees it. It happens to everyone, when something bad happens to them, they get scared or cautious around it after that event.

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    2. It was hard for him to deal with the fire, but here he realizes that fire is not only a harmful thing, but can be a helpful and life giving object of reassurance.

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  7. Do you think the book symbolizes differences?

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    1. I think the book does symbolize difference because what it has caused in the whole book.

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    2. The book Symbolizes society and how in society we act like everyone around us. We all follow mainstream fashion and life styles. There will always be someone different, that will try and rebel. I also agree with the differences, this book is just one big contradiction. Everything they say can be contradicted. That's how I think our society is. We can say that we are different, but in reality we are all the same.

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  8. “Were remembering” (164) So much inspiration behind that quote and also truth, because that is exactly what they are doing.

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  9. Why isn't Beatty going against society from reading, but Montag is?

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    1. He has convinced himself that books are poison and he uses the "poison" to back himself up. He only uses what helps his point in literature.

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  10. In response to the fishbowl question, "Is Montag more vulnerable with his knowledge about books?" I would have to say yes. He doesn't know how to use his knowledge. At the same time, I believe it makes him more powerful as he knows something others don't.

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    1. I agree with you, I think that Montag is a lot more vulnerable with his knowledge about books. Like you said with his knowledge it makes him a lot more powerful and therefore a possible threat to the government.

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  11. "How many of you are there.?" "Thousands on the roads, the abandoned rail-tracks, tonight, bums on the outside, libraries inside."(page 153) How do you think this will effect what Montag has done and what he has been trying to do? What do you think it means by bums on the outside, libraries on the inside?

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  12. Books caused people to think, which differed from the governments idea of " equality "

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  13. On page 154 it says, "Perhaps he expected their faces to burn and glitter with the knowledge they carried." He seems disappointed with the people he expected to be so superior, but does this mean that he's realized that anyone could do what they have done?

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  14. “But that’s the wonderful thing about man; he never gets discouraged or disgusted that he gives up doing it all over again, because he knows very well it is important and worth doing.” p. 153. what exactly does this quote mean?

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  15. How did violence play a role throughout the whole book?

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    1. Violence seemed to be a normal act in this book. So when it happens, it is to be expected.

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    2. Violence throughout the book was seen as an acceptable action as long as it made you happy. It was alright to be violent towards others which, for Montag, was one of the things that turned him away from his society.

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    3. I think it played a huge role in this book cause there was violence everywhere and like Connor said you sort of expected violence to be present in this book.

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  16. Why do you think the government pretended to catch Montag even thought they know it is the wrong person?

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    1. They needed to give the people what they wanted to see. The people wanted to see a finale that lived up to their expectations, and they gave it to them. The people are too arrogant to realize the reality of it. They see what they want to see.

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  17. On page 164 it says "Montag began walking and after a moment found that the others had fallen in behind him, going North" Why have the others started to follow Montag? I feel as if Montag could be a leader to these men. Montag has rebelled against society and got away with it. He tried to educate the world with his knowledge, but failed, but I think these people have faith in him. My other question is, why would they head north? Is that a symbolic message? I feel as if they are heading North, because north is upwards and they can only go up from here.

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  18. 'Stuff your eyes with wonder,' he said, 'live as if you'd drop dead in ten seconds. See the world. It's more fantastic than any dream made or paid for in factories. Ask no guarantees, ask for no security, there never was such an animal.'" Pg. 157 what do you think the significance of what this quote is saying?

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  19. At the end of the book Granger compares humanity to a phoenix saying that every time humanity makes a mistake they rebuild from the ashes and learn from their mistakes. Do you think that this is accurate?

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    1. I think we do learn form our mistakes, however, there is always going to be another mistake that humanity will make.

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    2. I agree with that. You can always rebuild. Life isn't perfect, but what isn't perfect can always be changed to make it almost perfect. Although history repeats, they can do there best to stop it.

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  20. “A time to keep silence” (165) He is right he has been through so much what can he all do, there is just too much to say.

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  21. "Montag said nothing but now, looking back, sat with his eyes fixed to the blank screen, trembling" Pg. 150. Now it seems that this is torture to Montag, but for everyone else books are torture. Why do you think this is?

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  22. The book ends with a cliff hanger of the city getting destroyed, what will happen next?

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    1. I definitely feel that it is up to our own interpretation.

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    2. I like to believe that they well rebuild, and make the right society.

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  23. What will Montag plan to acomplish when meeting with the schoool people and what will it do will he be in trouble for it or will they just not care]

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  24. "Dont judge a book by its cover," someone said."(page 155) Do you think they use this philosophy throughout the book? Where is it shown?

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  25. Do you think these books relate to anything?

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    1. I think that it can show a crumbling society that times were better and life was full of knowledge.

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  26. “When we reach the city. (165) Such an ambiguous line to end on what will happen then and in their lives after all that has happened? What will the knowledge of all this do?

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  27. In the end of the book, humanity was compared to a Phoenix. As we know a Phoenix are a creature that dies from fire and come back to life through its ashes. Do you think that books will be able to comeback from their ashes?

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    1. No I don't think so because humanity was compared to a Phoenix not books. So I think that this symbolizes that humanity can come back from this awful world that they live in and be better when they do comeback.

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  28. The ending seems rushed compared to the rest of the book. Why do you think that he did this?

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    1. I think he did this, so we aren't very sure of what happened to everyone. It is a cliffhanger that we have to infer what happened.

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    2. I think it means, life is short. If you notice there are no chapters. Life has no chapters, but there are different parts in your life.

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  29. Maybe the government blew up the city to keep Montags ideals from spreading.

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    1. I think that the government didn't want his ideals spreading but they would not blow up a whole city to stop it from spreading.

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  30. What will Montag do now?

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    1. I think Montag will try and bring books back to everyone.

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    2. i think he will give everyone books to read

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  31. On page 157 it says, "See the world. Its more fantastic that any dream made or paid in factories". Is the world really more fantastic? Don't People realize how much better the world could be?

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    1. They may be afriad of anything differing from what they already know, like how in our society people are still afraid of change

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  32. With the city being destroyed and them being safe do you think that this would be a good time to bring books back? What do you think would happen next?

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  33. why do you think montage took risks in the book instead of playing it safe?

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    1. I think that Montag felt like he had nothing else to lose and he also felt like books were worth the risk of his own life.

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  34. I think Clarrise is doing it on accident, being who she is is what starts Montag's whole trip

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  35. In response to the fishbowl, "Why do Montag and Granger think its important to continue to spread the knowledge of books?" I think they understand how important books are to history and keeping traditional.

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    1. I agree with you Alex I think they are one of the only people that understand what knowledge that books possess and they want to share that knowledge with a bunch of people.

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  36. On page 161 it says "Montag watched the great dust settle and the great silence move down upon their world." Do you think this represents something like a new beginning or something else?

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  37. "When we reach the city" pg. 165. This was the very last line in the book. In this book Bradbury shows how important books knowledge are and how descriptive they are. You would think that he would end the book in a less vague way. Why do you think he chose to end it in this way?

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  38. This is what our society could end up like.

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  39. Always stand up for what is right even if you are standing alone

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  40. That the world is burning book

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  41. I think the big take away from this is to always keep books in our life, and we should except people being different and others smarter than others. We should not all be the same, Intelligent wise.

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  42. Ray Bradbury is warning us to be different. He saying to be ourselves. To live in our dreams and to read and have knowledge to do what we want. We need to be different to learn who what we really are. Knowledge makes us who we are and makes us unique.

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  43. I think that the big takeaway from this book is that everyone is different and books are a huge part of our lives in a lot of aspects, learning included.

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  44. the world will turn for the worst without books.

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  45. I think he is warning us that it is possible that we can be easily manipulated and in a way, programmed to think a certain way. I think Bradbury wants us to be aware that we shouldn't give people so much power.

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  46. I think the big take away from this book would be that don't let people boss you around and you have to stand up for your self.

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  48. "Montag walked slowly toward the fire" pg. 147. Is it hard for Montag to deal with fire now? Does it mean something different to him now that it has consumed and influenced his life.

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  49. Is there any way our society could head towards that of in the book?

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    1. Yes because kids our age can just look up what has happened in the book we are reading because we don't have to any more because it is all online.

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    2. Yeah, because kids in younger grades aren't using books that much anymore, they are just using computers. So they wont have any regret burning books.

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    3. No, because there are still a lot of people who LOVE reading and wouldn't stand for destroying books. There are still people who don't even own a tv cause they don't like the idea of them. I don't think we can turn into that.

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  50. I believe that when Granger welcomes Montag back and says, "Welcome back to life." there is a double meaning behind this. He is welcoming him back from death and celebrating his new birth into a new, more enlightened life.

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  51. What does Montag think of fire now?

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  52. "The innocent man stood bewildered... he stared at the Hound, not knowing what is was. He probably never knew." (pg. 142)
    Do you think that they faked Clarisse's death like they faked Montag's death?

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    1. They could have faked her death, but I don't think they ran, but the government picked them up.

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  53. Do you think that this was Ray Branbury thought that this is what the future was and maybe still is going to be like?

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  54. Fire is a different thing now, it used to be destruction and seemed artificial, but once he left, he thinks about how it's not being used they same

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    1. Montag thinks of fire as something that will help him now.

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  55. If you had to memorize a single book before it was burned for good, which book would you choose?

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    1. I think this is a great question, however I'm not sure i could choose just one. Because I would personally have a hard time coming to peace with knowing that I wouldn't have any knowledge outside of the one book I memorized.

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    2. From a practical point of view, I would memorize something like the dictionary so civilization can retain an advanced vocabulary.
      From a creative point of view, I would memorize a literary classic to enjoy over and over

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    3. Probably the bible. Hear me out before you judge. in the movie 'The Book of Eli' people who don't even believe in it want it because it has power behind it. It's a power sorce that a lot of people would do for anything.

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  56. Do you think that Montag will be able to reflect and remember the three things Faber told him he needs to have a fulfilled life: exposure to nature and the world of books, leisure to think, and freedom to act.

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  57. Will access to knowledge at any time or place eventually be taken for granted? Will we ever have so much knowledge that nobody is smarter than anyone else?

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    1. Since things are always being invented, there's always more to learn, so I don't think there's ever an end to knowledge

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  58. On page 149 Montag says " I can't remember anything. I think of her hands but I don't see them doing anything at all." How did Montag change from the fire?

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  59. When Granger compares humanity to a phoenix, do you think what he says is true? Do you agree with him?

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    1. I agree with him completely. If the world reset or was destroyed someway, humans would just work to build up civilization like it was.

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    2. I agree that people have the ability to restart themselves because that was what the whole ending symbolized is starting over.

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  60. "The land rushed at him, a tidal wave". (143) This shows how everything and everyone is against Montag.

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  61. What do you think the police decided to choose a random person to kill and Montag?

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    1. I think they chose to do this because they didn't want to give the rest of the town the impression that a "maniac" was still on the loose. I also think they did this in order to give the town a sense of reassurance that their superficial, shallow lives could continue on.

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    2. So that no one important does it, like, no one who knows a lot of people decides to do it. Also the police didn't want to look bad.

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  62. “Chicago... Thats where MIllie and I met” (160) This is a significant memory to Montag and it truly means something to him.

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    1. I agree, it made me think that Montag realizes that he might of had true feelings for her years ago. He sees that there was a time when he actually cared about Mildred and her well-being.

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  63. On page 140 the author states "The river was very real" What makes the river real? Does it symbolize something? Could it be that it represents new life since new water always flows through as fire represents new life as well?

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    1. I think that he means it's different from his everyday life.

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    2. I think that the river is real because it is there and it is always the same while Montag's society was ever changing and fake.

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  64. On page 140 Montag says, "The river was very real; it held him comfortably and gave him the time at last". Has Montag ever felt anything "real" in his life? How does this non-stop society prohibit citizens from having time to think for themselves and find truth?

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  65. So we still are unsure of what happened to Clarrise. What do you think happened to her?

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    1. I think that she tried to find herself and went off and did something great with her life. She seemed to have a grasp on what she wanted and she had to go for it.

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  66. why do you think montage took risks in the book instead of playing it safe

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  67. "See the world. It's more fantastic that any dream made or paid in factories" This is the embodiment of the whole book. It shows how something as simple as seeing the world can make such a huge difference.

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    1. I agree, if you take away the blindfolds on your eyes and truly see what is in front of you, it can change the way you look and perceive the world.

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  68. Would there be better relationships between people with or without technology?

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    1. Relationships are better with technology because they allow us to stay in touch with our friends even if they are really far away.

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    2. I think that technology allows people to have more relationships and it helps them to communicate with their friends but on the other hand, I think that relationships between people would be more genuine and honest without technology.

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    3. Technology gets in the way of how people really feel toward each other. When people are on their phones they can get information to each other but they can't really solve problems or help the physical person.

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  69. Is social media bringing us more together or dragging us further apart? Is social media making relationships more accessible or prohibiting person to person contact?

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    1. It all depends on your perspective. I think that social media is idling relationships, or at least long distance ones, but it can also help get together with friends or do something fun.

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  70. "The sun and every clock on the earth. It all came together and became a single thing in his mind." What did time mean to Montag?

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  71. On page 146 the author states "He could hear nothing of what the voices said." Why didn't he hear the voices? Was it because the voices did not have anything important to say?

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  72. At the end when Montag talks about going to the city, does the city represent starting over?

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    1. Yes, but I think he's starting a new life, not starting over with the people he knows.

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    2. The city represents going to a new society that will be different.

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    3. I agree with Brett because it seems that society is never going to change.

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  74. Would you rather use water to cleanse and start a new beginning or fire to burn something so it never gets a chance to change?

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    1. I would use fire because it completely destroys what was there before, where water just takes the dirt of leaving the same old object.

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  75. On page 155 someone said " Don't judge a book by its cover." do think that this is still intact today because of all of the technology? An how some people act different over the internet than in person so how can you not judge?

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  76. what will Montag do now after everything he has gone through.

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    1. I think montag will start to adapt to the new society and help bring literature back to normal

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  77. Pg 159 And Mildred . . . Get out, run!
    He saw her in her hotel room somewhere now in the half second remaining with the bombs a yard, a foot, an inch from her building. He saw her leaning toward the great shimmering walls of color and motion where the family talked and talked and talked to her, where the family prattled and chatted and said her name and smiled at her and said nothing of the bomb that was an inch, now a half-inch, now a quarter-inch from the top of the hotel. The first bomb struck.
    "Mildred! " Why do you think the government destroyed the city?

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    1. I don't know if it was the government, but there was the whole story about the war going on, so I think that is what happened.

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  78. Do you think that Montag has a chance to survive in this society?

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    1. I think he's ready to start over. I believe his need to learn and improve will fit perfectly in this society

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    2. No because I think that now he knows so much that he cannot just go back to conforming to this society.

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  79. Why do you think that Ray Bradbury ended with the words "For noon... When we reach the city."

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  80. "But every time he burnt himself up he sprang out of the ashes"
    -Granger (163) talking about the phoenix

    Is the phoenix's journey similar to Montag's journey?

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    1. Yes because even though he is continuously burnt and all hope seems lost, he comes through and keeps going.

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  81. What was the main thing that Montag learned at the campfire with Granger?

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  82. On page 150 the author states "They scrambled it just enough to let the imagination take over." How powerful is our imagination? Is anything possible if we put our imagination to the test? I think if we all used our imagination to a certain extent, we would be cable of great things because of what our imagination creates.

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    1. I think that you can do anything if you try your hardest, and if you still can't, keep trying.

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  83. I think books have a very important meaning in this book. They are referenced twice, the first time by Montag, when he refers to Clarrise as a mirror because of her ability to see herself clearly, and the second time when Granger remarks that when they go to rebuild the town they must put in a mirror factory so mankind can finally take a hard look at itself.

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  84. What did Granger mean about waiting for the society to become ready for books again?

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  85. What do you think that Montag will take away from his conversation with Granger?

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  86. On page 157 the author states "Its more fantastic than any dream made." How can something be more fantastic than a dream when a dream is all we go for? Is he saying that he has finally reached his dream and its better than expected?

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  87. Why did Bradbury leave us with questions after the bombs dropped in the city?

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    1. I believe that Bradbury left so little detail out after the bombs because, there was not certainty in the society that was burnt down and therefore no definite outcome nor a definite solution. The men were only left to their hopes and what they have learned from mistakes.

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  88. I believe that when Granger shares his story about his grandfather to Montag it makes Montag feel determined to leave a legacy behind.

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  89. What do you think that he felt that he had left a stage behind with actors? was it like his past was all just a show that he doesn't want to be real?

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  90. Why is the Bible such a reoccurring reference in this story? Does it symbolize anything in this society?

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    1. In our society the Bible represents beliefs and the way of life. The river in the book could be connected to the bible in a way that the river is cleansing itself by bringing in new water all the time and pushing the old water out like sins and cleansing of sins in the Bible.

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  91. How does this outcome relate to our society

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  92. "And the war began and ended in that moment." I think, like everything else in the Fahrenheit 451 society, the war needed to have a snap ending. It is only fitting.

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  93. “Chicago... Thats where MIllie and I met” (160) Earlier in the book Montag and Milldred recalled that they couldn't remember when or where they met. How is it possible that he is now recalling that they met in Chicago

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    1. Montag is in a stressful situation. He knows that Millie is about to die from the bombs. Sometimes long forgotten memories can resurface at these times.

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    2. When he is put in a situation where she dies the body triggers something in the memory that you didn't know was possible.

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    3. I think is possible because he was thinking about Milldred and then when the shock wave hit him and the men it hit and that sudden hit made him remember things. That destruction (bomb) sent a trigger and made him remember.

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    4. When you know that you are about to loose someone who has a huge impact on your life things that you may not have had vivid memory of or thought about everyday it just comes to mind because you want to remember all these things that led to you meet that person in the first place.

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  94. How did Montag's use of books help him gain advantage in this society?

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    1. The use of books allowed Montag to use his intelligence and ideas to gain knowledge and gain power.

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    2. Montag gained more knowledge from reading books, they opened up his mind and made him think more in depth about controversial topics in their society.

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  95. On page 149, the book says, "Blackout. Silence. Darkness. Montag cried out in the silence and turned around.” At this point, we have just learned that they had captured the random man instead of Montag. Do you think Montag feels guilty that he caused an innocent man to pay for a crime he didn't commit?

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    1. Montag probably feels more shocked than guilty. He didn't know that the government was willing to go so far for a snap ending. Guy is still realizing just how bad this society is.

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    2. I think he does feel guilty, because anyone would. But I also think that he feels relieved because they wouldn't come looking for him anymore and he could finally be free.

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    3. I agree with Joseph, I think Montag was shocked, he was shocked that he was able to get away with what he did so easily. Montag in his mind was already creating a punishment for himself and was already beginning to punish himself. To realize that so quickly he got out of that punishment, free, was shocking.

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    4. I think part of Montag feels guilty but I think he is more relieved because they are no longer looknig for him so he probably feels safer.

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    5. I agree with Olivia and Joseph, I think that he is in a state of shock. I do believe that he may later on feel guilty when everything passes by and he realizes what he has done. But it's kinda crazy right now so he is mostly in shock.

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  96. When Montag is thinking about something memorable to say and he says,"And on either side of the river was there a tree of life, which bare twelve manner of fruits, and yielded her fruit every month; And the leaves of the tree were for the healing of the nations."(165)

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  97. " Welcome back to LIfe". Why do you think Granger welcomed Montag back to life? He was never truly dead.

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    1. I think Granger meant, "Welcome back to society." Montag had been on the run for awhile and he was just entering back into the world with other people and it not just being him for once.

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    2. While Montag never truly died, I think Granger sees the majority of this society as being 'dead'. It is only by defying the norm that Montag has truly become 'alive'.

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    3. I agree with Jaclyn because its like he was in this trans that he wasn't himself and after looking at books and learning he has broken free of this "brainwashed" mentality

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  98. "Why do you trust me?" said Montag. How could the people trust him after he has kept the books and kept their secrets?

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  99. At the end of Montag's chase when "Montag was found and killed", how was this unrealistic in comparison to our society?

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    1. In our society, instead of finding and killing someone, they put a warrant out for that criminal and then when they are caught, they just go to jail and serve their time. In their society, it is apparently realistic to kill them on the spot.

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    2. They wanted people to feel comfortable and ease their confusion and fear. This is similar to our society today where the media grooms the truth to serve the wants of the common public.

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    3. This shows that a lot of our TV isn't or is trying to relate to our society saying that nothing on TV can really be real.

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  100. There are robots or even much people away from the city. Why is the city full of this society, but not rural areas? Wouldn't it make sense if the government decided to take over everywhere? Or is this so people actually have a choice of futuristic or past?

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    1. I think that all countries decided to ban books, otherwise the people outside the city would just go to a country that allows books. Without the knowledge and opinions present in books, like the children, the countries resort to violence to keep life interesting.

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  101. How did Montag's perspective of fire change throughout the story? Do you think that fire symbolizes something greater in their society?

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    1. In the beginning of the book Montag uses fire as a sort of weapon. Throughout the book, his view changes and it shifts to more of a tool. It is used to cover up his escape, and in the very end when he escapes it is used as an aid for survival.

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    2. Montag's perspective of fire is change twice during the story I feel. First, Montag began in the book with a sense that fire was a an ever going force that made things beautiful through ashes. Later near his epiphany, he relies that the force that burns is only one that destroys the progression of ideas.Yet near the end, he realizes that fire is very two sided when he sees how the English majors use it. "It was not burning. It was warming...He had never thought in his life that it could give as well as take." (145-146)

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    3. I think Montag had thought of fire the same way he thought of the air that he breathed. He thought it as something that should be used everyday. As the book went on he realized that fire was detrimental to the world because he read a book and saw what books can do for the world. At the end of the book he notices that it is something that should not be played with, so he stops all connection to fire.

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  102. "It all came together and became a single thing in his mind. After a long time of floating on the land and a short time of floating in the river he knew why he must never burn again in his life." pg. 141. I find this quote really cool because Montag came to this realization in a river. The river symbolizes the cause that has cooled down his fire and has risen him up to this epiphany.

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  103. "Welcome back to life" What does this quotes symbolize?

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    1. Reborn as a new self. Becoming a new version of yourself.

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    2. Back to life. As in before this government came in and made everybody equal. And now that Montag is free he can view life as those like Faber and Clarisse see it.

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  104. They "end" the search on the TV by killing an innocent man in the wrong place at the wrong time. How is it okay for the media to do this? But it isn't okay for Montag to want to read books? Why is violence not frowned upon??

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    1. I think the society is more okay with letting people believe that they have superiority over everyone rather than being okay with the violence part. I think that they just wanted the people to be impressed that they could catch the criminal and still be superior to everyone and avenge the crime committed, I don't think they would resort to that if they could have found Montag. But, it just shows how disgusting this society is because they were okay with killing an innocent man rather than finding the true criminal.

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  105. "Everyone must leave something behind when he dies." (156) Why do you think that Granger said that to Montag while walking on the River?

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    1. Montag died by leaving the F451 society, and in the process, he lost Millie, Faber, and the firemen.

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  106. "He listened to his heart slow. His thoughts stopped rushing with his blood." As Montag is escaping, he is coming to the realization that he is becoming free. Freedom can make anybody happy, especially those who were put under harsh judgment. Do you think his life will be finally big enough in the sense that he can breathe and be conciseness about life?

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  107. I think Montag thinking Clarisse had walked on the same train tracks he is on is a metaphor for following Clarisse's way of thinking. She inspired him to be his own person, to go outside of this society and do what he thinks is right.

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  108. I think he felt her precense on the tracks sense she is hte one who got him to where he is now. Like she is that one who got the ball rolling. So he feels that clarisse is probably right there with him.

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  109. How do you think the water is significant? Or what do you think it means?

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    1. The water represents something new and something fresh. Montag submerged himself in the water to clean off his smell and to become a new person. He wants a fresh start, a new life. The water symbolizes a clean and fresh start.

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  110. At the begining of the book fire brought joy to him and now that he has gone through all of this what to do you think fire represents to him now?

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  111. On page 152, Granger states "For if we are destroyed, knowledge is dead." Do you think these men are the only hope for any knowledge in the society?

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  112. What do you think Montag will do when he meets up with the scholars?

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  113. "Even if she dies, I don't think I'll feel sad." -Montag (145) This quote was also used earlier in the book. Why do you think the author brings this up multiple times and how is it significant to the story?

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